Turn 2

Alright, turn 1 is over. Discuss our activities in turn 2 in this topic.

I've decided I'm going to hit that farmland west of me first, then move east. So I guess aristander you won't need to take that farmland for me after all. It turns out the other province is actually a farmland also, and has a thoroughly ridiculous amount of defenders in it... I want to test the mettle of ferdinando's footmen before I entrust them with that battle.

I taxed too high and now I have to move my patrol so I could use cash next turn but I doubt anyone has extra.

I noticed the vets all had lowish first turn income. What does that mean exactly? Scales not optimized for income and/or not patrolling and overtaxing the first turn I guess.

Jomon/Darloth our castles both border Mag(60) right? I'm going to say that it's yours as I already have enough resources nearby.

Just a couple of things:in the first turns I'll have quite some gold to spare,so if the "frontline" teammates need some,just say it here.Also,I've placed a bid of 100 on the sage(should i make that higher?).

EDIT:Pyg,I read your post just now,exactly how much money do you need?

pyg wrote:I taxed too high and now I have to move my patrol so I could use cash next turn but I doubt anyone has extra.

I noticed the vets all had lowish first turn income. What does that mean exactly? Scales not optimized for income and/or not patrolling and overtaxing the first turn I guess.

Jomon/Darloth our castles both border Mag(60) right? I'm going to say that it's yours as I already have enough resources nearby.

Well, it does seem pretty clear that none of them took as good of scales as us. In the case of mictlan and pangaea I expect that's to cover an awake SC and/or a bless. Although mictlan is the only vet with no research done, so he's the only one that probably doesn't have an SC. For pythium, I have no idea what he's doing, that income is ridiculously low. Undoubtedly there's an awake sc in there, but what else is he doing to justify that low of income. Weird. Abysia has almost as good of scales as me, and I have O3P2G1, so I would guess he has O3 in there somewhere. Ermor is, well, ermor.

The primary conclusion I can draw from this is that they're staking everything on a strong early game. And they do have a significant advantage there, as I'm pretty sure most of us have limited experience fighting awake combat pretenders. Especially keep an eye open for pangaea with their stealth raiding abilities and gorgon.


Amonchakad - 100g is almost definitely not enough to secure dagan, so you probably do want to spend more.

If people want to spare gold to the frontliners that's great, especially if we're buying most of the mercenaries we'll need a lot of gold. I'd rather put it other places personally but this map is going to be pretty cramped and full of fighting.

Amonchakad wrote:Just a couple of things:in the first turns I'll have quite some gold to spare,so if the "frontline" teammates need some,just say it here.Also,I've placed a bid of 100 on the sage(should i make that higher?).

EDIT:Pyg,I read your post just now,exactly how much money do you need?

Check out the oddly titled 'merc denial' thread if you are thinking of bidding on the sage. 100 is kinda low as well.

I will net less than 350 next turn and I need LOTS of cash to build up skinshifters. I could use 500. I will repay with 25% interest by the end of the year on anything loaned to me.

Pyg, don't suppose you have the income/resources stats for Mag (60) do you, and I'd love to know what your scouts think of troop numbers. I'm trying to decide which province to hit first.

OK I can't go attacking until next turn. And after getting me some more troops I am left with 200 gold 2Fire 2Air 4Astral. So I'm thinking I should be sending these to someone else this turn to help out.

Darloth wrote:Pyg, don't suppose you have the income/resources stats for Mag (60) do you, and I'd love to know what your scouts think of troop numbers. I'm trying to decide which province to hit first.

No stats although I would guess ~50 resources. 50 units, HI, militia, and archers.

If no one else asks for any, I'll take some of that gold.

100 gold to Tien Chin for rdonj, 100 to pyg (what is your realm since you haven't got it written as your location)

just checked my research for this turn 43 points into Theu with only 9 remaining. so once I got my mages doing ritual site searchs. I think I'll start going for Evo and Blood. Since my Stealth/Priest/Mage leaders seem to be blood mages. Damn castrated and flailed

Lavaere wrote:100 gold to Tien Chin for rdonj, 100 to pyg (what is your realm since you haven't got it written as your location)

just checked my research for this turn 43 points into Theu with only 9 remaining. so once I got my mages doing ritual site searchs. I think I'll start going for Evo and Blood. Since my Stealth/Priest/Mage leaders seem to be blood mages. Damn castrated and flailed

Sorry, fixed now.

Thanks. I have the feeling I'm going to be buying a lot of the mercenaries, so I can probably use all the gold I can get for that.

I'm expanding down to the bottom right of my capitol and hoping I take the province, I think it's the weakest. From there I'm not entirely sure where to go but none of the others lead anywhere good unless I want to chance my starting army against heavy cavalry. No thanks.

Aside from that I'm forging a hat for RDonj and that's about it.

Edit: Update.
I have serious graphical corruption everywhere, my laptop may be dying, and my email server is refusing to send things. I'll try to resend tomorrow, othewise, I'll request an extension due to arrgh.

All is well. I'm pushing straight north to the mountain, as it's the least defended province close to me. Leaving my pretender home to amass some soldiers of the west, as well as put out some research. You may have noticed I didn't put out a prophet last turn, that's because I built a Lord Warden which I am prophetizing now, so he can lead my future army of wardens.

Army production right now is terrible for me, my main province is farmland. Will be a while untill I have tamed all indies. Oh, the woodland(52) right next to me is filled with ghouls and soulless. Bring priests!

Also, my dominion strength in my province and the closeby is one. Should I be concerned?

Giant Moth wrote:All is well. I'm pushing straight north to the mountain, as it's the least defended province close to me. Leaving my pretender home to amass some soldiers of the west, as well as put out some research. You may have noticed I didn't put out a prophet last turn, that's because I built a Lord Warden which I am prophetizing now, so he can lead my future army of wardens.

Army production right now is terrible for me, my main province is farmland. Will be a while untill I have tamed all indies. Oh, the woodland(52) right next to me is filled with ghouls and soulless. Bring priests!

Also, my dominion strength in my province and the closeby is one. Should I be concerned?

Well, on the bright side you'll be incredibly rich with all those farms

You might have some cause to be concerned about your dominion, but not necessarily because of that. How much dominion did you take on your pretender? We have lots of awake pretenders in this game and if your dominion is low you could end up being in trouble having to build lots of temples/preach most of the game.

My pretender is only domionion 3, awake. Hopefully I'll get a bit more now with my prophet coming, and at least I won't have money trouble to build tempels.

Ouch, dom 3 IS low. You're definitely going to need some of those temples, especially if you want to produce decent numbers of wardens. That's not good, with only 3 wardens a turn you're going to have to be very careful with them. I am going to humbly suggest NOT using them to expand, to help keep their numbers up for when you start raiding the vet team's provinces.

I wasn't aware that dominion effected the amount of holy you had, but hey, what do you learn every day. I needed pretty good scales, AND I wanted some decent blessings for my troops, so unfortunately dominion had to sit out a bit.

Yeah, when you're using a bless strategy scales usually take a pretty heavy hit to accomodate it. And taking a bless on an awake combat pretender just exacerbated the issue. It's definitely not the optimum build for this game, but eh, what can you do. This game is all about learning anyway.

Another good thing about Giant Moth having that income is that he'll be able to feed out frontliners.

So low Dominion means less extra names, and high Dominion means lots of extra names.

I actually didn't know that until today. I never thought much about it before, but it does make sense.

I still think that Adamantus, King of Might is the most awesome and humble title ever.

Ok,I sent 200 to Tien'Chi and 400 to Midgard;don't worry about interests or paying back for the moment,we're a team after all

I've also canceled my bid on the sage,as I don't have much money left.

Thanks That should give me some wiggle room in case I need to buy another set of mercenaries soon.